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Bible Versus Quran Versus Sciences, (37) Forever

December 31st, 2009

Forever means time without end, everlasting time; eternally, all times, incessantly, limitless time, without ever ending.

“He wants to live Forever but No one can live Forever”.

Forever is mentioned 290 times in the Bible and 14 times in the Quran.

How does the Bible use “Forever”:

The Forever Land:

The Lord Promised the Israelites to give them the “Land” Forever, while the history and the today news notify that this promise never happened. Moreover, the Bible says that “the righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it Forever” and we all know that both the righteous and the “wicked” inherit the land and dwell in it.

Genesis 13:15

All the land that you see I will give to you and your offspring Forever.

Exodus 32:13

Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: ‘I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance Forever. ‘ “

Joshua 14:9

So on that day Moses swore to me, ‘The land on which your feet have walked will be your inheritance and that of your children Forever, because you have followed the LORD my God wholeheartedly. ‘

2 Chronicles 20:7

O our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it Forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

Psalm 37:29

The righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it Forever.

Ruin Forever, never to be rebuilt.

Desolate Forever, no man will dwell in it

The Lord says that Hazor and other Biblical places will desolate and no man will dwell in such places Forever, however, these places are still full of life.

Deuteronomy 13:16

Gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. It is to remain a ruin Forever, never to be rebuilt.

Jeremiah 49:33

“Hazor will become a haunt of jackals, a desolate place Forever. No one will live there; no man will dwell in it. “

Jeremiah 51:26

No rock will be taken from you for a cornerstone, nor any stone for a foundation, for you will be desolate Forever,” declares the LORD.

The throne Forever

The peace Forever

The Lord promised that the throne of David and his descendants will remain secure before the Lord Forever and they will live in peace Forever. The History from David’s time up till now signifies that this Lord’s promise never achieved.

2 Samuel 7:13

He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom Forever.

2 Samuel 7:16

Your house and your kingdom will endure Forever before me ; your throne will be established Forever. ‘ “

1 Kings 2:33

May the guilt of their blood rest on the head of Joab and his descendants Forever. But on David and his descendants, his house and his throne, may there be the Lord’s peace Forever. “

1 Kings 2:45

But King Solomon will be blessed, and David’s throne will remain secure before the LORD Forever. “

1 Kings 9:5

I will establish your royal throne over Israel Forever, as I promised David your father when I said, ‘You shall never fail to have a man on the throne of Israel. ‘

Psalm 89:29

I will establish his line Forever, his throne as long as the heavens endure.

2 Chronicles 13:5

Don’t you know that the LORD, the God of Israel, has given the kingship of Israel to David and his descendants Forever by a covenant of salt?

The Lord sits over the flood as King Forever.

The Lord will dwell at the mountain Forever

The Lord rejected them Forever but He will not always accuse Forever. Awake, O Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself

Psalm 29:10

The Lord sits enthroned over the flood; the LORD is enthroned as King Forever.

Psalm 44:23

Awake, O Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself! Do not reject us Forever.

Psalm 68:16

Why gaze in envy, O rugged mountains, at the mountain where God chooses to reign, where the Lord himself will dwell Forever?

Psalm 74:1

[ A maskil of Asaph. ] Why have you rejected us Forever, O God? Why does your anger smolder against the sheep of your pasture?

Psalm 103:9

He will not always accuse, nor will he harbor his anger Forever;

Isaiah 57:16

I will not accuse Forever, nor will I always be angry, for then the spirit of man would grow faint before me— the breath of man that I have created.

Live Forever

Live Forever is used six times in the Bible.

Of course there is nothing on the Earth that would or could Live Forever

1 Kings 1:31

Then Bathsheba bowed low with her face to the ground and, kneeling before the king, said, “May my Lord King David live Forever!”

Psalm 49:9

that he should live on Forever and not see decay.

Daniel 3:9

They said to King Nebuchadnezzar, “O king, live Forever!

Daniel 5:10

The queen, hearing the voices of the king and his nobles, came into the banquet hall. “O king, live Forever!” she said. “Don’t be alarmed! Don’t look so pale!

Daniel 6:6

So the administrators and the satraps went as a group to the king and said: “O King Darius, live Forever!

Daniel 6:21

Daniel answered, “O king, live Forever!

For this reason, one has to be cautious when interpreting the following two verses about the bread and blood of Jesus

The meaning of these two verses are only found in John and never mentioned in the other three Gospels.

John 6:51

I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live Forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. “

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live Forever. “

Priest Forever

Melchizedek is an unknown and an extremely vague person.

He is described as:” Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest Forever”. Jesus ranks in the order of Melchizedek.

However, it seems likely that Melchizedek is superior to Jesus because he has no mother while Jesus has a mother.

Psalm 110:4

The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest Forever, in the order of Melchizedek. “

Hebrews 5:6

And he says in another place, “You are a priest Forever, in the order of Melchizedek. “

Hebrews 6:20

Where Jesus, who went before us, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest Forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 7:3

Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest Forever.

Hebrews 7:17

For it is declared: “You are a priest Forever, in the order of Melchizedek. “

Hebrews 7:21

but he became a priest with an oath when God said to him: “The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: ‘You are a priest Forever. ‘ “

Hebrews 7:24

but because Jesus lives Forever, he has a permanent priesthood.

Destroyed Forever

I wonder why the Bible deals with Esau like that.

It is Jacob who was unfair to his brother Esau and cheated him.

Obadiah 1:10

Because of the violence against your brother Jacob, you will be covered with shame; you will be destroyed Forever.

Love Forever

The Love Forever means killing of mighty kings

Psalm 136:18

And killed mighty kings— His love endures Forever.

Sleep Forever

Is there sleep Forever?

Jeremiah 51:39

But while they are aroused, I will set out a feast for them and make them drunk, so that they shout with laughter— then sleep Forever and not awake,” declares the LORD.

Jeremiah 51:57

I will make her officials and wise men drunk, her governors, officers and warriors as well; they will sleep Forever and not awake,” declares the King, whose name is the LORD Almighty.

Leprosy Forever

Is there leprosy Forever?

2 Kings 5:27

Naaman’s leprosy will cling to you and to your descendants Forever. ” Then Gehazi went from Elisha’s presence and he was leprous, as white as snow.

Womb enlarged Forever

Is there Womb enlarged Forever?

Jeremiah 20:17

For he did not kill me in the womb, with my mother as my grave, her womb enlarged Forever.

Wandering stars Forever

Scientifically speaking there are no Wandering stars neither ever nor Forever!

Jude 1:13

They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved Forever.

How does the Quran use “Forever”:

Scientifically speaking, there is nothing Forever on the Earth. Everything and anything should have an end.

The Quran never uses “Forever” for anything on the Earth.

The Quran uses “Forever” for the Afterlife.

The Believers: Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them Forever

Surah 4:57

“And (as for) those who believe and do good deeds, we will make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them Forever; they shall have therein pure mates, and we shall make them enter a dense shade”

Surah 4:122

“And (as for) those who believe and do good, we will make them enter into gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide therein Forever; (it is) a promise of Allah, true (indeed), and who is truer of word than Allah?”

Surah 5:119

“Allah will say: this is the day when their truth shall benefit the truthful ones; they shall have gardens beneath which rivers flow to abide in them Forever: Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Allah; this is the mighty achievement”

Surah 9:21-22

21- Their lord gives them good news of mercy from himself and (his) good pleasure and gardens, wherein lasting blessings shall be theirs;

22- Abiding therein Forever; surely Allah has a mighty reward with him”

Surah 9:100

Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with him, and he has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them Forever; that is the mighty achievement”

Surah 18:1-3

1- (All) praise is due to Allah, who revealed the book to his servant and did not make in it any crookedness”

2- Rightly directing, that he might give warning of severe punishment from him and give good news to the believers who do good that they shall have a goodly reward,”

3- Staying in it Forever”

Surah 64:9

“On the day that he will gather you for the day of gathering, that is the day of loss and gain; and whoever believes in Allah and does good, he will remove from him his evil and cause him to enter gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide therein Forever; that is the great achievement”

Surah 65:11

“an messenger (Mohammad) who recites to you the clear communications of Allah so that he may bring forth those who believe and do good deeds from darkness into light; and whoever believes in Allah and does good deeds, he will cause him to enter gardens beneath which rivers now, to abide therein Forever, Allah has indeed given him a goodly sustenance”

The Unbelievers: hell, to abide in it Forever

Surah 4:168-169

168- Surely (as for) those who disbelieve and act unjustly Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to a path;

169- Except the path of hell, to abide in it Forever, and this is easy to Allah

Surah 33:64-65

64- Surely Allah has cursed the unbelievers and has prepared for them a burning fire,

65- To abide therein Forever; they shall not find a protector or a helper

Surah 72:22-23

22- say: surely no one can protect me against Allah, nor can i find besides him any place of refuge:

23- (It is) only a delivering (of communications) from Allah and his messages; and whoever disobeys Allah and his messenger surely he shall have the fire of hell to abide therein Forever.

The following verses summarize the fate of Human beings in the Afterlife.

Surah 98:6-8

6- Surely those who disbelieve from among the followers of the book and the polytheists shall be in the fire of hell, abiding therein Forever; they are the worst of men

7- (as for) those who believe and do good, surely they are the -best of men

8- Their reward with their lord is gardens of perpetuity beneath which rivers flow, abiding therein Forever; Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with him; that is for him who fears his lord

Back to the main issue of my series of articles (1-37); this is my question to you smart readers: “Is the Quran quoted from the Bible “?

Bible Versus Quran Versus Sciences, (30) the Clouds

December 16th, 2009

The Clouds are mentioned in the Bible 153 times and in the Quran nine times, i. e. , the Bible cites the Clouds 17 times more than the Quran does.

Furthermore, the total words of the Bible are 788,280 while the total words of the Quran are 77,473. It follows that, the Bible has the likely of more than 10 times than the Quran word-wise to talk about the Clouds. In addition, the Bible has the prospective of more than 17 times than the Quran topic-wise to utter about the Clouds.

The Clouds Bible

The rainbow in the clouds is the sign of the covenant between the Lord and the earth.

Genesis 9:13

I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth.

Genesis 9:14

Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds,

Genesis 9:16

Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth. “

Ezekiel 1:28

Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking.

The Lord came down in the cloud is in a pillar of clouds, and appearing in the cloud,

Exodus 13:21

By day the LORD went ahead of them in a pillar of cloud to guide them

Exodus 16:10

… there was the glory of the LORD appearing in the cloud.

Exodus 24:16

and the glory of the LORD settled on Mount Sinai. For six days the cloud covered the mountain, and on the seventh day the LORD called to Moses from within the cloud.

Exodus 34:5

Then the LORD came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimed his name, the LORD.

Leviticus 16:2

The LORD said to Moses: “Tell your brother Aaron not to come whenever he chooses into the Most Holy Place behind the curtain in front of the atonement cover on the ark, or else he will die, because I appear in the cloud over the atonement cover.

Numbers 11:25

Then the LORD came down in the cloud and spoke with him,

Numbers 12:5

Then the LORD came down in a pillar of cloud; he stood at the entrance to the Tent and summoned Aaron and Miriam. When both of them stepped forward,

Deuteronomy 31:15

Then the LORD appeared at the Tent in a pillar of cloud, and the cloud stood over the entrance to the Tent.

Isaiah 19:1

[A Prophecy About Egypt] An oracle concerning Egypt: See, the LORD rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt within them.

The Lord veil and cover are made of clouds

However, Tahpanhes is also covered with clouds!

Job 22:14

Thick clouds veil him, so he does not see us as he goes about in the vaulted heavens. ‘

Lamentations 3:44

You have covered yourself with a cloud so that no prayer can get through.

Ezekiel 30:18

Dark will be the day at Tahpanhes when I break the yoke of Egypt; there her proud strength will come to an end. She will be covered with clouds, and her villages will go into captivity.

The Lord chariot is made of clouds

Psalm 104:3

and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.

How to be like the Lord? If you ascend above the tops of the clouds.

What about the passengers on a flight?

Isaiah 14:14

I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High. “

The clouds are the dust of Lord’s feet.

Nahum 1:3

The LORD is slow to anger and great in power; the LORD will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet.

When the Lord snuff you out the sun will be covered with a cloud.

Ezekiel 32:7

When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light.

There is fire in the cloud of the Lord by night.

Exodus 40:38

So the cloud of the LORD was over the tabernacle by day, and fire was in the cloud by night,

Numbers 9:15

[The Cloud Above the Tabernacle] On the day the tabernacle, the Tent of the Testimony, was set up, the cloud covered it. From evening till morning the cloud above the tabernacle looked like fire.

Numbers 9:16

That is how it continued to be; the cloud covered it, and at night it looked like fire.

Deuteronomy 5:22

These are the commandments the LORD proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then he wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me.

Psalm 105:39

He spread out a cloud as a covering, and a fire to give light at night.

Isaiah 30:27

See, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense clouds of smoke; his lips are full of wrath, and his tongue is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 30:30

The LORD will cause men to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail.

the cloud filled the temple of the LORD.

1 Kings 8:10

When the priests withdrew from the Holy Place, the cloud filled the temple of the LORD.

2 Chronicles 5:13

Then the temple of the LORD was filled with a cloud,

Ezekiel 10:3

Now the cherubim were standing on the south side of the temple when the man went in, and a cloud filled the inner court.

Ezekiel 10:4

Then the glory of the LORD rose from above the cherubim and moved to the threshold of the temple. The cloud filled the temple, and the court was full of the radiance of the glory of the LORD.

The clouds rise from the ends of the earth.

Jeremiah 51:16

When he thunders, the waters in the heavens roar; he makes clouds rise from the ends of the earth. He sends lightning with the rain and brings out the wind from his storehouses.

The following prophecy is about the second coming of the Lord Jesus.

This prophecy never happened.

Mark 14:62

“I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven. “

Luke 9:34

While he was speaking, a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and they were afraid as they entered the cloud.

Luke 12:54

[Interpreting the Times] He said to the crowd: “When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, ‘It’s going to rain,’ and it does.

Revelation 14:14

[The Harvest of the Earth] I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.

The Clouds in Quran

Many Scientific tips in one verse:

Surah 2:164

Behold! In the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the Night and the Day; in the sailing of the ships through the Ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts (creatures )of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds and the clouds which they trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth, (here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.

In this verse, many Scientific tips are mentioned as signs for the wise people e. g. :

Allah created the heavens and the earth

Allah made alternation of the Night and the Day

Allah causes the sailing of the ships through the Ocean

Allah sends the rain down from the sky.

Allah gives the life to the dead earth.

Allah generates the creatures and scatters them through the earth

Allah makes changes of the winds

The clouds between sky and the earth are obey Allah’s will.

There is no verse in the entire Bible that gives all of these meanings at a time.

There are scientific and theological correlation between clouds, rain, and the dead land and the revival of dead people.

Surah 7:57

It is He Who sendeth the Winds like heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy: when they have carried the heavy-laden clouds, We drive them to a land that is dead, make rain to descend thereon, and produce every kind of harvest therewith ; Similarly We Shall raise up the dead perchance ye may remember.

Herein we have the sequences of events that are cloud, rain, dead land, and life of the dead land. The One who is capable to do this is in turn capable to raise up the dead man for the Day of Judgment.

The Quran is almost always reminding us with the afterlife.

This deep and important theological issue is not mentioned in the Bible.

The Wind fertilize the clouds.

Surah 30:48

It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of His servants as He wills, behold, they do rejoice!

Surah 13:12

It is He Who doth show you the lightning, by way both of fear and of hope: it is He Who doth raise up the clouds, heavy with (fertilizing) rain!

Surah 15:22

And We send the winds fertilizing, then send down water from the cloud therewith providing you with water (in abundance) to drink, though ye are not the guardians of its stores.

These verses (30:48, 13:12 and 15:22) talk about the fertilized clouds. It was after the revelation of the Quran by 1300 years that Meteorologists discovered that clouds are negatively and positively charged. It is the role of the wind (as the Quran stated) to fertilize the clouds and leading then to rain.

The Unbelievers thinking is like many layers of darkness over each other.

Surah 24:40

Or (the Unbelievers’ state) is like the depths of darkness in a vast deep ocean, overwhelmed with billow topped by billow, topped by (dark) clouds: depths of darkness, one above another: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! For any to whom Allah giveth not light, there is no light!

The Scientific relation between clouds, hail and lightning.

Surah 24:43

Seest thou not that Allah makes the clouds move gently, and then joins them together, then makes them into a heap (stack)? then wilt thou see rain issue forth from their midst. And He sends down from the sky mountain masses (of clouds) wherein hail is: He strikes therewith whom He pleases and He Turns it away from whom He pleases. The vivid flash of His lightning well-nigh blinds the sight (nearly blinds the sight).

Meteorologists explore the details of cloud formation, structure, and function by using sophisticated equipments like planes, satellites, computers, balloons, etc. in order to study wind and its direction, to measure humidity and its variations, and to determine the levels and variations of atmospheric pressure.

The preceding verse, after mentioning clouds and rain, speaks about hail and lightning. Meteorologists have found that these cumulonimbus clouds, that shower hail, reach a height of 25,000 to 30,000 ft (4. 7 to 5. 7 miles) like mountains, as the Quran said, “. . . And He sends down hail from mountains (clouds) in the sky. . . ”

This verse says “its lightning” in a reference to the hail? This means that hail is the major factor in producing lightning. Meteorologists today say that a cloud becomes electrified as hail falls through a region in the cloud of super cooled droplets and ice crystals. As liquid droplets collide with a hailstone, they freeze on contact and release latent heat. This keeps the surface of the hailstone warmer than that of the surrounding ice crystals. When the hailstone comes in contact with an ice crystal, an important phenomenon occurs: electrons flow from the colder object toward the warmer object. Thus, the hailstone becomes negatively charged. The same effect occurs when super cooled droplets come in contact with a hailstone and tiny splinters of positively charged ice break off. These lighter positively charged particles are then carried to the upper part of the cloud by updrafts. The hail, left with a negative charge, falls towards the bottom of the cloud, thus the lower part of the cloud becomes negatively charged. These negative charges are then discharged as lightning. It may be concluding from this that hail is the major factor in producing lightning. This information about lightning given by the Quran was only discovered after the revelation of the Quran by 1300 years.

Back to the main issue of my series of articles; this is my question to you smart readers: “Is the Quran quoted from the Bible and which book preceded the sciences”?